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#1799547 - 12/02/11 03:48 PM [OT] Scriabin's orchestral music
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I don't like all parts from his first symphony, but the last movement and especially the choral part is one of the finest bits of music I've ever heard:



I have the album that is shown in this picture spinning all the time (Symphonies No. 1-3 and the Poem of Ecstasy & Poem of Fire). The Poems are so fantastic. They are the most detailed, dynamic and richest sounding recordings I have heard of these pieces. I really recommend it to anyone interested in his orchestral music.


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#1824574 - 01/14/12 07:16 AM Re: [OT] Scriabin's orchestral music [Re: babama]
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This performance of the entire last movement is even better I think, but both versions have their own charm.

Deutscher-Symphonie-Orchester Berlin
Vladimir Ashkenazy, Conductor




I am again deeply moved. To me, Scriabin is simply one of the all time greatest composers.
Those people who only know some of his piano music, will be pleasantly surprised! smile

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#1824774 - 01/14/12 01:23 PM Re: [OT] Scriabin's orchestral music [Re: babama]
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Scriabin's orchestral music is magnificently beautiful and intense. I remember first hearing the finale of his 3rd symphony....I was completely blown away; it's so unique and brilliant. The beautiful 1st movement of his 1st, the passionate second movement, the triumphant finale of his 2nd symphony, as well as the whole of the 3rd, are all Scriabin highlights for me.

The only thing is that, in spite of the great beauty, Scriabin's music often gives me a slight feeling of unease; some people refer to him as being mystical, but to me he seems more "supernatural", unstable, too much in the mind and not enough earthenness; doesn't have his feet on the ground. (to me, "mystical" denotes something pertaining to the inexplicable, ineffable coincidence of spirt and matter, heaven and earth, whereas supernatural implies that something is in a completely separate ontological categorial from the physical/ natural).

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#1824811 - 01/14/12 02:00 PM Re: [OT] Scriabin's orchestral music [Re: Psychic Ravel]
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Originally Posted By: Psychic Ravel
Scriabin's orchestral music is magnificently beautiful and intense. I remember first hearing the finale of his 3rd symphony....I was completely blown away; it's so unique and brilliant. The beautiful 1st movement of his 1st, the passionate second movement, the triumphant finale of his 2nd symphony, as well as the whole of the 3rd, are all Scriabin highlights for me.

The only thing is that, in spite of the great beauty, Scriabin's music often gives me a slight feeling of unease; some people refer to him as being mystical, but to me he seems more "supernatural", unstable, too much in the mind and not enough earthenness; doesn't have his feet on the ground. (to me, "mystical" denotes something pertaining to the inexplicable, ineffable coincidence of spirt and matter, heaven and earth, whereas supernatural implies that something is in a completely separate ontological categorial from the physical/ natural).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysterium_(Scriabin)

That right there, I think, is plenty proof enough that the guy wasn't exactly Realist Of The Year. laugh
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#1824917 - 01/14/12 05:05 PM Re: [OT] Scriabin's orchestral music [Re: babama]
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Pychic Ravel that is more or less why I love his music so much.
I've always been into music with a sense of mystery. Music that is not about mere earthly matters. Music that has something grand and cosmic to it. My main music love was/is electronic ambient/space music, currently next to classical music.
The Poem of Ecstasy to me is basicly space music. It's like witnessing the birth of the universe.


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#1825562 - 01/15/12 07:55 PM Re: [OT] Scriabin's orchestral music [Re: babama]
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my contribution to the thread:

my favorite recording of the Poem of Ecstasy - slow, but effectively so. The climax, followed by the long rest, and then the coda, is one of the most powerful and intense moments in music. I can almost feel my heart stopping when that pause comes:


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#1825574 - 01/15/12 08:28 PM Re: [OT] Scriabin's orchestral music [Re: babama]
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I wonder if much (or any) of Scriabin's piano music has been orchestrated in any way. Seems like some of it could be extremely effective if re-imagined for other instruments.

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#1825655 - 01/15/12 10:47 PM Re: [OT] Scriabin's orchestral music [Re: wr]
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Originally Posted By: wr
I wonder if much (or any) of Scriabin's piano music has been orchestrated in any way. Seems like some of it could be extremely effective if re-imagined for other instruments.


I know that several of his late piano works were orchestrated and choreographed into a ballet called "nuances". It can be found on Ashkenazy/Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra's "Preparation for the Final Mystery" set.

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#1825715 - 01/16/12 01:54 AM Re: [OT] Scriabin's orchestral music [Re: fledgehog]
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Originally Posted By: wr
I wonder if much (or any) of Scriabin's piano music has been orchestrated in any way. Seems like some of it could be extremely effective if re-imagined for other instruments.


I know that several of his late piano works were orchestrated and choreographed into a ballet called "nuances". It can be found on Ashkenazy/Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra's "Preparation for the Final Mystery" set.


Thanks for the tip! I just finished listening to it - very interesting, and sometimes very beautiful. He included some of the exact music I was thinking of when I asked about orchestrations, like the Poeme-Nocturne, which could work as a stand-alone piece in an orchestral concert.




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#1825831 - 01/16/12 10:03 AM Re: [OT] Scriabin's orchestral music [Re: fledgehog]
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Originally Posted By: fledgehog
my contribution to the thread:
The climax, followed by the long rest, and then the coda, is one of the most powerful and intense moments in music. I can almost feel my heart stopping when that pause comes:


That one is a bit too slow for me, but I agree it's an incredibly powerful moment. Just like the choral part of the Poem of Fire (when it's not rushed too much).
Here's another performance of the Poem of Ecstasy with Mikhail Pletnev as conductor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFsQViolz34

wr here's an orchestrated Op. 2 No. 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1GmLCArJLQ
Bad choice in my opinion. This piece belongs to piano.


Edited by babama (01/16/12 10:05 AM)

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#1825880 - 01/16/12 11:42 AM Re: [OT] Scriabin's orchestral music [Re: babama]
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There's an orchestration of the 9th sonata by Georg Friedrich Haas. However, I don't believe it's been recorded (yet).
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